{"id":1143975,"date":"2019-10-11T16:00:58","date_gmt":"2019-10-11T21:00:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dailyreckoning.com\/?p=108141"},"modified":"2019-10-11T16:00:58","modified_gmt":"2019-10-11T21:00:58","slug":"who-has-the-trade-war-hurt-more-u-s-or-china","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/juniorminingnews.com\/?p=1143975","title":{"rendered":"Who Has the Trade War Hurt More: U.S. or China?"},"content":{"rendered":"

This post Who Has the Trade War Hurt More: U.S. or China?<\/a> appeared first on Daily Reckoning<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Yesterday we hazarded a defense of free trade. Here was the rock of our argument:<\/p>\n

A free man \u2014 even an American \u2014 enjoys the right to purchase his wares at the lowest price he can obtain them.<\/p>\n

That is, we stood upon \u201cthat right which man has to purchase his sustenance where he can obtain it cheapest.\u201d<\/p>\n

But today we vacate the defense counsel\u2019s table. Instead we don the black robe\u2026 and take our impartial seat in the judge\u2019s chair.<\/p>\n

Which party \u2014 the United States or China \u2014 is winning the trade war?<\/p>\n

That is the case before us today.<\/p>\n

We first consult the jury \u2014 the stock market.<\/p>\n

Dow Soars on Trade Hopes<\/b><\/h2>\n

The Dow Jones was up nearly 400 points by 11 this morning.<\/p>\n

That is because the president sat down with China\u2019s vice premier this morning to negotiate trade.<\/p>\n

At 9:49 Mr. Trump announced:<\/p>\n

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Good things are happening at China Trade Talk Meeting. Warmer feelings than in recent past, more like the Old Days. I will be meeting with the Vice Premier today. All would like to see something significant happen!<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The market spent the remainder of the day in elevated spirits.<\/p>\n

The Dow Jones ended the day with a 320-point gain. The S&P gained 36 points, while the Nasdaq added 106.<\/p>\n

But to return to the case at bar: Which side is winning the trade war \u2014 the United States or China?<\/p>\n

The Pro-U.S. Argument<\/b><\/h2>\n

Counsel for the United States enters the following evidence:<\/p>\n

China exports far more products to the United States than the United States exports to China.<\/p>\n

China is therefore absorbing the worse scarring.<\/p>\n

Chinese economic growth already languishes. And year to date, Chinese exports to these shores fell roughly 10% beneath the previous year\u2019s.<\/p>\n

Only half of these exports were subjected to stiffened tariffs.<\/p>\n

But additional tariffs enter effect on Oct. 15 and Dec. 15.<\/p>\n

In the absence of a trade truce, virtually all Chinese exports \u2014 some $500 billion worth \u2014 will soon come under the ban.<\/p>\n

We can then safely project a 20% plunge in Chinese exports to the United States.<\/p>\n

That represents a $110 billion hatcheting of Chinese revenues.<\/p>\n

In conclusion, runs this argument, China is losing the trade war. The United States is winning.<\/p>\n

But no beads of perspiration form about the Chinese counsel\u2019s brow. He appears unruffled.<\/p>\n

He bounds from his seat.<\/p>\n

With the beaming confidence of a card sharp holding a trick card up his shirtsleeve… he approaches the bench\u2026<\/p>\n

The Chinese Rebuttal<\/b><\/h2>\n

\u201cWe Chinese,\u201d he informs us, \u201care superior strategists. Do you not realize that a Chinese fellow wrote The Art of War<\/i>?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWe were aware of that, yes.\u201d<\/p>\n

He opens by reminding us that the United States manufacturing has plummeted to its lowest level since the financial crisis. And that American exports are severely depressed.<\/p>\n

He then declares:<\/p>\n

\u201cThat $110 billion my opponent referred to? That is, the $110 billion loss American tariffs are inflicting upon us? It does not represent an actual loss to China’s GDP.\u201d<\/p>\n

A puzzled expression creases our features\u2026<\/p>\n

\u201cIt doesn\u2019t?\u201d<\/p>\n

He lifts from his briefcase a sheet of official-appearing paper\u2026<\/p>\n

Why U.S. Tariffs Aren\u2019t Crushing China<\/b><\/h2>\n

It reveals the research of one Nicholas Lardy. Mr. Lardy is an economist at the Peterson Institute for International Economics (PIIE).<\/p>\n

His findings are summarized by Shawn Tully, senior editor of Fortune<\/i>:<\/p>\n

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When China sells mobile phones or appliances to the U.S., a big portion of the parts in those and most other products are made in Vietnam, Malaysia, Japan or other countries that feed China’s factories. The value of the components that Chinese plants contribute to the finished goods, plus value of the labor and machinery use in final assembly, account for only half the sales price of the goods shipped to America.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Therefore:<\/p>\n

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China’s lost production, the decrease in the portion of the products it actually makes, amounts to 50% of the $110 billion total, or $55 billion. That’s the hit to its GDP.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Meantime \u2014 this Chinese legal eagle informs us \u2014 while the United States seeks higher tariffs against much of the world, China has lowered tariffs against other countries:<\/p>\n

\u201cChina has raised tariffs on American products, for example. But here is what you may not know: We have lowered tariffs against other nations that supply the same products. We are therefore unharmed.\u201d<\/p>\n

China Works Around U.S. Tariffs<\/b><\/h2>\n

He cites the aforesaid Shawn Tully:<\/p>\n

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China hammered U.S. goods that it could easily purchase from third countries, especially commodities selling on global markets, slapping 28% tariffs on soybeans, 22.3% on wood, paper and metal products, and 19.3% on chemicals. In each case, those duties more than doubled. Meanwhile, China lowered average tariffs to all other countries from 8% to 6.7%. For example, it’s now buying soybeans from Brazil and Argentina at a 3% duty, and Pacific salmon from Japan at 18.9%, cutting purchases from the U.S fisheries on the West Coast that now pay a 42.4% tariff.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Mr. Tully continues:<\/p>\n

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According to the PIIE economists, China is not paying significantly more for the soybeans, chemicals and other products that it used to buy from America and now sources from Argentina or Canada. Even if the third-party prices are slightly higher, they’re offset by the reduction in tariffs on all non-U.S. suppliers. As a result, say the PIIE economists, China is shouldering virtually no deadweight costs at all. It’s remarkable that U.S. tariffs have driven China to the market-driven, trade-enhancing reform shift of lowering barriers to the rest of the world.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Furthermore, says the Chinese attorney…<\/p>\n

\u201cIf you Americans think these tariffs are benefiting you so, look at their downstream effects. Your president has handed out $25 billion to your farmers injured by our retaliatory tariffs on their products. That money comes out of the taxpayer\u2019s pocket one way or the other. That\u2019s $25 billion that cannot be spent on additional goods or services. Have you forgotten your Henry Hazlitt?\u201d<\/p>\n

A thunderous objection suddenly rises from the American counsel:<\/p>\n

\u201cBaseless speculation, your honor! My opponent is not a trained economist.\u201d<\/p>\n

We stroke our chin in pensive reflection…<\/p>\n

\u201cObjection overruled. We have in fact read Henry Hazlitt. And there is justice in counsel\u2019s argument.\u201d<\/p>\n

We instruct the fellow to proceed\u2026<\/p>\n

Deadweight Costs<\/b><\/h2>\n

\u201cIn all, American consumers and businesses have paid $34 billion in tariffs since the start of the trade war last February through this August. This is according to data from the Trade Partnership and another group called Tariffs Hurt the Heartland. It comes back to deadweight costs, your honor.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cDeadweight costs?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cYes. Investopedia defines deadweight costs after this fashion:<\/p>\n

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A deadweight loss is a cost to society created by market inefficiency, which occurs when supply and demand are out of equilibrium\u2026 With a reduced level of trade, the allocation of resources in a society may also become inefficient.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\u201cAre not tariffs deadweight costs?<\/p>\n

\u201cWe Chinese have gotten around them by lowering tariffs on non-American goods. You Americans have not. Some estimates say the deadweight costs from tariffs could cost the U.S. economy $160 billion next year.\u201d<\/p>\n

The American counsel once again voices a strenuous objection \u2014 and on the same grounds \u2014 speculation.<\/p>\n

\u201cSustained. No, overruled. It seems plausible. Please continue.\u201d<\/p>\n

The Deadweight Costs to the U.S. Economy<\/b><\/h2>\n

\u201cYour own Congressional Budget Office forecasts that real U.S. GDP will expand $390 billion next year. But without that $160 billion in deadweight costs, your economy would likely expand $550 billion. That is, U.S. GDP would increase 0.9 points without deadweight costs.<\/p>\n

\u201cMeantime, deadweight costs from American tariffs only subtract 0.4 points from our own economy because we have lowered tariffs on other nations.<\/p>\n

\u201cIn conclusion, we are winning the trade war. The United States is losing.\u201d<\/p>\n

At which point the Chinese attorney calls upon the testimony of Fortune\u2019s <\/i>Mr. Tully. From whom:<\/p>\n

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For the U.S., the tally is 0.1% from lost exports to China and 0.9 points from overpaying for third-country imports for a total of 1.0%. China wins in a 2.5-1 walk away. It’s like winning the Super Bowl 40-16. Losing 0.4% of your growth when you’re expanding at over 6% is a lot easier to bear than losing 1.0% when you’re growing at 2.0%, the predicament for America.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n

\u201cThis is an outrage,\u201d roars the counsel for the United States. \u201cI demand a retrial!\u201d<\/p>\n

He promptly wheels 180 degrees… and storms from the courtroom…<\/p>\n

Regards,<\/p>\n

Brian Maher
\nManaging editor, The Daily Reckoning<\/i><\/p>\n

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Yesterday we hazarded a defense of free trade. Here was the rock of our argument: A free man — even an American — enjoys the right to purchase his wares at the lowest price he can obtain them. That is, we stood upon “that right which man has to purchase his sustenance where he can […]<\/p>\n

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